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You may have heard a strange whistling sound three days ago. Undetectable almost.

That was me squealing, many miles away.

Spoiler is back. I mean, that has pretty much been 99% confirmed since Robin #172, and 99.9% confirmed since the solicit release last Monday, but it is now 100% official.

I am glee.

Some say this retcon was sloppily done. That the comic was rushed, or whatever. I disagree.

I can't really offer much in argument besides my personal feelings besides the fact the last half of the comic practically made me bleed joy with every page turn. Steph's reveal was paced brilliantly. I love the *unmask* "That's you all over, isn't it? Always so sure you're right?" And then Batman and Tim's :o with Tim softly saying "Stephanie?" while she stands with her hands on her hips, and then we turn the page and HUGE SPLASH where Tim GLOMPS Steph and EATS HER FACE. It is the perfect reaction.

We then get our official fanon explanation: Leslie faked Steph's death. It is a nearly perfect retcon, and almost completely plausible, and redeems Leslie as well as bringing back Steph. Steph gets accepted back into the Bat family and Alfred drops his tea tray and is happy. I love Alfred so. Together he and Steph could be an undeniable duo of awesome. That panel where Steph is teasing him and he is grinning and they are linking hands....! So cute. Steph has obviously either guessed Bruce Wayne's identity or he revealed it to her (about DAMN TIME) and...I love this part...they go to visit her Mom. Yay! Oh, and Tim is upset that both Bruce and Steph lied to him, so there's gonna be some DRAMA, but who cares?

Addressing whether it was OOC for Batman to accept Steph back as a hero after the deaths she caused in War Games, the more we pretend War Games NEVER HAPPENED, the better. Accepting Steph back into the fold is less OOC for Bats than ANYTHING he did in War Games. It was a horrible story, let's move on. I really don't want Steph constantly angsting over the deaths she cause, since starting the gang war was an impossibly stupid thing for her to do in the first place. I mean, Steph is not a sharp as Tim, but she HAS A BRAIN.

Basically, the whole story was a bit meta. Dixon obviously wrote it for himself as much as the fans, having created the character. It was always obvious he had a great affection for Steph. I mean, he had her guest star in his THIRD ISSUE as Robin.  Near the end of his run, she was practically a co star, and he was taking steps toward integrating her into a member of the Bat family, and a member of BoP too! I think it's pretty obvious, his intention, as her creator, was to have her improve and learn and become a very competent Bat-operative. That was where her character arc was taking her before he left.

But leave he did. And JUST AFTER, Batman fired her. I'm not kidding. She had to be dumped from BoP before then, too, because I guess DC or whoever didn't want some other writer to have to deal with her on the team. It's almost as if DC was pissy at Dixon for leaving, and decided to take it out on his pet character. And it didn't have to make sense even. Batman had virtually no reason for firing her. The whole thing was sudden.

Steph: "Hi, Batman! What's up?"
Batman: "You don't have the skills or the talent."
Steph: "Yeahbuhwha?"

Steph did not ASK to become Batman's protege. He came to her. (She pointed this out to him like ten times in that particular issue of Gotham Knights, but he feigned deafness or something) So, if he didn't think she had the skills, WHY DID HE ASK HER TO WORK FOR HIM? (Actually, he didn't even ask. He was like "You are working for me now.")

It's almost hilarious in it's transparency.

Jon Lewis, I think, attempted to save her by taking her out of the Spoiler gig for a while after the Cluemaster's death. But nooooo. They ordered Willingham to kill her.

It was all editorial clusterfuck. It didn't have to make sense.

So, dammit, neither does Batman accepting her back!

Enough about that. Steph's back.

And you know, I mentioned this over at Girl Wonder, but I'm thinking: the reason War Games stung so badly? Because it was the end. The end for Steph. It was what she was remembered for...not the awesome hero she was as Spoiler or Robin, but that chick who did something stupid, screwed up, got herself captured. got tortured and shot, THEN DIED. All things that happened previous didn't matter. Now, all of that still happened except for the "AND DIED" part. But it's not so bad anymore...because now she can be "that chick who died, but then came back and had her own Special with Robin, and became a regular in the Robin ongoing, and had her own miniseries and was generally just awesomesauce all around...." hopefully. She will still always have this terrible black mark on her history, but at least we're moving forward now. At least we can enjoy more exploits of the Spoiler.

Steph's death wasn't about her, like so many female deaths in comics. It was about cleaning house for Bats and giving Tim some ANGST. She was reduced to "Tim's dead girlfriend" on the rare occasions she was mentioned. She was not "Robin" or "Spoiler" or "The girl who tried her best against overwhelming odds, who was hero despite a bad upbringing, who was funny and happy and kickass". She was someone Tim could include in his long list of losses before he angstily made out with Wonder Girl.

Now she's gotten herself a ressurection worthy of a hero. When before, she was moved out of the way for other things, other things were moved out of the way for her. Who wants to bet the reason Tim and Cassie ended their horrible angsty grief driven and idiotic courtship was so Tim could give Steph that giant kiss? (Okay, maybe Zoanne had something to do with that too) She's being treated as an independent character, a hero, not another of "Tim's girls".

I am insanely excited for the Robin/Spoiler special. It promised more info about Steph's absence, and some Tim-and-Steph dymanic duo asskicking for justice. What more could I want? And the miniseries, something Dixon pitched a long time ago (http://stephaniebrown.wikia.com/wiki/Interviews) looks like it will get off the ground. Steph is going to get a series all to herself- something she never had before.

I look forward to seeing more awesomeness from my fave character.

Now is June 4th would just hurry the hell up already.

Comments

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lost_angelwings
May. 24th, 2008 08:40 pm (UTC)
meow! :D
I luffed her return so much :] I thought it was done rly well in general :D

She will still always have this terrible black mark on her history, but at least we're moving forward now.

She'd only join like Hal Jordan and others for that tho right? :] That's not bad company to be in. :D (sry, trying to be positive :) )

Also... wanna be lj friends? :D
nevermore999
May. 24th, 2008 10:24 pm (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Yeah, it's hard to find a comix character that DOESN'T have a "dark" time in their history (particularly female ones). Comes with the medium.

And I would LOVE to be LJ friends with someone as awesomesauce as you! :) :) :)
lost_angelwings
May. 24th, 2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Yay! :DDDDD

Friending you nao! :DDD

And you're rly awesomesauce yourself too btw! :D

Edited at 2008-05-24 10:55 pm (UTC)
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Friended you back! Thanx for friending me, and the compliment. I love your blog. I cannot say that enough. :)
lost_angelwings
May. 25th, 2008 01:17 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
I dun think the friend add worked :(

Thx so much for the compliment too! :D I'm rly glad you like reading my blog, esp since you're somebody whose thoughts I like reading too :D

Edited at 2008-05-25 01:17 am (UTC)
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
AGH stupid internet! Did it work now? I checked my friends list and it turns out quite a few people who friended me aren't listed as friended back, even though I did!

BTW, I totally share your love of cats. I have four, and I smother them all with love. I meow at them and stuff. :D
lost_angelwings
May. 25th, 2008 01:35 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Yus it did! :D

Yay!

Awww :] Yay many cats! :D What kinds/colours are they? :D I wish I had more cats! XD I luff mine :) She is so cute and talkative. I meow at her but I think I have an accent cuz she looks at me funny XD

nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Yay!

I have a seventeen yr old tabby named Mariah (she's been there since I was born and is ridiculously pampered, hence the longetivy.) Her daughter, Callie is sixteen and a tortishell. She's very shy, but so pretty because she's orange and black and yellow all over! Then the nine year old, Sweet Kitty (heh, I was eight when I named her) is a Siamese. Ron is just a couple years and is a long haired gray kitty. I get mad at him often because he has a very high pitched squealy meow that he graces me with in the middle of the night. But he's adorable.

They're a very dysfunctional family. Sweet Kitty and Ron are like constantly feuding siblings, but SK loves Mariah and will lick her, it's so adorable and Callie keeps to herself, poor thing.

Oh no, you got me started on my cats. XD What's your's name? What kind is she.
lost_angelwings
May. 25th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Awwww your cats sound ADORABLE!!!! :DDD *sends them e-hugs* :]

Mine is named Rinoa :D She's a black and white shorthair :) 7 years old nao :D

this is her sleeping on the router :D

She likes to talk a lot :D I sometimes wonder if she came from a far off alien civilization to warn us of an impending attack or something and that's why she keeps mewing at me and it's like "no you have to warn your military! they're coming! no what are you doing! stop petting me!!" XDDD We're doomed D:
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)
Re: meow! :D
Aw, she's so cute! *sends her e-hugs too*

Yeah, all my cats except for Callie talk so much, and sometimes I'm just like "WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME?" :)
psychosesman
May. 24th, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
I'm happy for you.

Also, this was very well-written and informative. I had next to no understanding of what the crap happened with her death, and I feel informed now, so thanks for that.
nevermore999
May. 24th, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
Aw, thanks Psy! Glad it was informative.
bluefall
May. 24th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC)
What's funny for me? At this point, I'm completely used to plots that don't quite work with what came before and comic retcons that don't make sense and accepting things that are awkward if they bring a broken story back to a workable place. So while I register the not-entirely-smooth way this retcon happened (her mom in particular is problematic), I was perfectly happy to just run right along with it.

But to me, Tim is so completely gay that him kissing Steph voluntarily knocked me right out of the story. It was like, "wait. Who is this boy who is engaging in remotely sexual behavior with a female without her badgering him for twenty minutes about it first, and what has he done with Tim?"

Little disagreements with the source text about Tim's questionable heterosexuality aside, though, it was an excellent issue, since of course it's really not about the writing at all. It's about Steph being back, and repudiating War Crimes. And in what universe is that not excellent? Not one I live in, that's for sure.
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 12:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's me too. It makes more sense than Jason's rezzing, so I just goooo with it.

About the kissing- it's Steph returned from the dead. I consider myself straight and I'd probably pounce on her and kiss her.

"It's about Steph being back, and repudiating War Crimes. And in what universe is that not excellent? Not one I live in, that's for sure."

Absolutely freakin' word.
parsimonia
May. 24th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
and then we turn the page and HUGE SPLASH where Tim GLOMPS Steph and EATS HER FACE. It is the perfect reaction.

LOL, *glomps* is the perfect word to describe that action there.

re: Batman possibly being OOC

As far as I can tell, Batman has always been inconsistent with Steph, so it's kind of ... consistent. Ha? I still blame the whole thing on Batman for not telling her about Matches Malone.

Steph's death wasn't about her, like so many female deaths in comics. It was about cleaning house for Bats and giving Tim some ANGST. She was reduced to "Tim's dead girlfriend" on the rare occasions she was mentioned. She was not "Robin" or "Spoiler" or "The girl who tried her best against overwhelming odds, who was hero despite a bad upbringing, who was funny and happy and kickass". She was someone Tim could include in his long list of losses before he angstily made out with Wonder Girl.

WORD.

I've gotta make a post about the return of Spoiler in my own journal sometime soon...not a lot of people on my f-list are into comics, and I just think the journey that this fictional character has had, along with readers, fans, writers and editors is something so awesome that more people need to know about it.

I wasn't even aware of any of it until a little over a year ago, but I feel like pointing at it all and yelling "See? See? It's worth it to criticise, it's worth it to question, it's worth it to demand something better!" Even though, yeah, she's just a comic book character, I think it serves as an example of other things that can be achieved. Fangirling for JUSTICE! It works! lol
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 12:49 am (UTC)
Haha, fangirling for justice! That's great.

And yes, that's the feeling I get from this too. We don't have to eat the crap they shovel us, we can convince them to respect their characters and write better stories. From now on, whenever anyone says "Why are you complaining? You can't change things." I'm going to point to Steph.
nevermore999
May. 25th, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
And yes, Batman was freakishly inconsistant with Steph. "You're fired! Wait, no you're not! Wait yes you are!" It's a wonder the girl was not banging her head against the wall in confusion.
ashezfanficrecs
May. 25th, 2008 04:12 am (UTC)
Just wanted to leave you a note that I loved this post. I agree with everything hole heartedly. Hmm, I need to remember to tell my local comic store to order me the robin/spoiler special...
the_narration
May. 25th, 2008 06:47 am (UTC)
Heh. I'm right there with you on the joy, if not quite so high-pitched about it. Steph's back!

There's a couple holes in the retcon, but compared to the massive flaws in what it's retconning (and in lots of comic stories in general) they're pretty easy to ignore. And it's a lot simpler and less harsh on our heroes than any method I'd come up with.
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